Agree Or Disagree? Huh?

Yeah but you can’t choose what others decide to sexualize, you can only choose what you decide to sexualize. So it really isn’t your choice

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That’s what I said, but it still shouldn’t be sexualised unless you want it to be

I’m just here to say a little bit about this. This is incorrect, why would they? When they are born it’s NORMAL for them, they were thaught that it’s something “you’re not allowed to see”. It’s just standards.
This sentence makes 0 sense.

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Okay, so. I only wrote ‘I disagree’ previously and now I have to do homework so naturally, I’m here, procrastinating.

I disagree. I think that in an ideal world, it would be okay. I mean, boobs are men’s nipples with more fat and the ability to produce milk. It would be great if we could all walk around and not get body-shamed or judged or assaulted, but that happens even when we’re fully clothed.

If you do go out as a woman topless, expect stares, possibly a few ‘wtf’ stares. In my opinion, if you think about it, it’s not that ‘wtf’ but society’s not going to be unsurprised.

I feel like people would stare and judge, catcall, even assault. None of these things should happen, ever, even to a male or a fully clothed person, or idk, they shouldn’t even happen to your pet goldfish (although maybe the goldfish would be ok with staring). But unfortunately, we do live in a world and society where things like this happen, and unfortunately again, we can’t control when they happen. Sometimes you get a stroke of really bad luck, and something bad happens. They shouldn’t happen though :pensive:

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This is a touchy topic that I quite honestly see both sides to- the other thing to keep in mind is that the standards of society may have conditioned our minds to think the way we do- we can even go back to the Stone Ages. It wasn’t uncommon to see the breasts of cavewomen- not only for purposes in relation to fertility and taking care of their newborns, but it’s also suggested that there was more “freedom” with clothing for “normal activities”. I know things were obviously different back then, but clothing was hardly given a second thought because they just focused on survival. I’m trying not to get crazily off-topic, but new studies are suggesting that it may have been more common for the women to go and gather/hunt- or much more common than scientists once thought. It seems as though it wasn’t as much as a male-dominated society as some may believe. There were women leaders and all that, so society weirdly went “backwards” and became more male-dominated, and now we’re in this modern society and I guess we’re kind of in the middle of the scale. Since I need to study for my chemistry test that I’m probably going to fail, I’ll just include this link:

Summary

Please be aware that although the title is questionable, the article provides some insightful information. In addition, please be “mature” because some cultures in the world are less “restrictive” on clothing and the cover picture reflects that. Yes, it is very different than what many if not all of us see. However, we must be respectful of other cultures and their practices. Don’t pay as much attention to the picture as you should pay attention to the history provided.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2012/09/kate-middleton-topless-photos-when-did-bare-breasts-become-taboo.html

Personally, I wouldn’t want to willingly go outside topless because I’m insecure and it personally makes me uncomfortable. Honestly, I don’t like seeing men topless when they’re running or when those old, sweaty guys are mowing their lawns generally because their bodies aren’t “appealing” (I praise them for doing work and exercising, but most people would prefer not to see old men shirtless). Even though I don’t “like” it, I also don’t really care because it’s not an incredibly huge deal and I therefore try not too judge too harshly because they’re entitled to do what they may please.

I think in the unfortunate society that we have developed into, topless women would probably not be accepted easily. I think society has been decompressed and conditioned for centuries to feel certain ways about topics such as this (for the most part).

At the same time (at least where I live) I’ve never seen topless men grocery shopping or doing normal errands like that? I’ll see them topless as they’re running on trails or mowing their lawns. I think it would be weird to see both men and women doing “normal activities” topless because it seems “unnecessary”? The only thing that I can think of are nudists beaches, where people willingly go. Like there’s models covering magazines with their naked bodies and I think that’s fine. There’s many (many) incredible modern and ancient art that shows the bodies of both men and women as forms of art, with/without any sexual appeals attached, and that’s also fine. I think the human body has been graced with more freedom compared to, say, the 1900s. We have come a long way in some aspects, but we’re also walking backwards in some aspects as well. It’s all in balance, I guess.

Sorry I’ve made this so long :woozy_face: I personally don’t see men walking around public topless, but maybe it is where I live. And if I did, I’d feel uncomfortable (once again, maybe because of where I live). I’m personally glad that women aren’t as restricted in modern society compared to some other periods of time. I don’t know why women and men would want to walk around topless…? I once again think it’s “unnecessary”? It’s also stupid that women are defaulted to wear bras because there are so many guys with man boobs lmao plus they’re uncomfortable as heck for most women. I certainly don’t consider myself a die-hard “feminist” and I generally don’t go off on tangents about human rights, but I’ve been thinking about this thread since I saw it last night while studying for another test (yeehaw) and thought I’d say something. Unfortunately I think society as a whole has developed a lot of immoral “defaults” and it has plagued humanity. Yeah, I completely understand the “sexual appeal” aspect of this whole ordeal, but it’s unfortunate that we even have to consider sexual assault and such. It just sucks that the world is the way it is.

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My mind is going a mile a minute and I’m running on four hours of sleep and I have to go study, so I’m more than certain that I left out crucial points- hopefully none of what I wrote came off wrong or anything of that nature. I think the human body is beautiful and should be appreciated, but I think it would just be odd to see either men or women or both walking around casually and topless lmao. People should be able to do what they want/wear what they want for the most part- there should be limitations for everybody (if anything), not just women. So yeah, I probably left out half the crap that I was thinking of, but I’m a mess lmao

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Personally, I agree :confused: (with that person)

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And dudes only go shirtless in public and the beach and workouts. There are nudity beaches like why bother? :expressionless:

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They’re are many cons to this than there are pros. I feel like it would be women causing more of a uproar than the men would. Tbh, they don’t need this right, they just want it because they’re getting greedy and men have it. 6 states have this right already, no thanks to the 44 states.

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I both agree and disagree with this

idk how i feel about this topic. i dont wanna say anything that’ll offend anyone who takes it the wrong way so i’ll just cut to the chase about how im feeling. im not super comfortable with seeing topless women out in public. its a private part of a woman’s body so keeping it covered is something i’ll always favour. however, as a sort of compromise, i think the notion of women not needing to wear a bra is better.

also, bringing the argument of women being ‘hot’ and needing to go topless like a dude is stupid. i mean, just wear a bra?

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To me, it makes me uncomfortable when anyone walks around without a shirt unless they’re at a beach or pool. idk but the whole free the nipple movement rubs me the wrong way. I feel that it’s a sexual harassment problem on both sides. A woman could get rape and on the other side some people (me include) feel very uncomfortable in their own skin and seeing people parading around without a shirt just doesn’t help.

Also once on a bus, a woman was breastfeeding her baby (which is fine when you hungry, you hungry) but her boob was still out after the baby was done. :fearful:

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Temp closed for review.

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I’m gonna have disagree with her. One that is what nude beaches are for, and two, I’m not about to go off shirtless. Way to many sickos out there.

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Well I kinda agree that boobs aren’t sexual, but because of the way society views women’s’ breasts…it’s snot very appropriate to walk outside without a shirt or bra on.

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Why don’t we all just keep our shirts on in public?

Once we’re at home, we can go nuts.

If you’re talking about the beach, then, uh…

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