Animation Update Moving Forward Feedback Thread

Which animations specifically cause that black space glitch? Tory might ask that if she sees your comment so specify what they are. Also what lip shape does your character use?

Also I think for the horse one it is purposefully animated like that so it looks good when you have the character riding a horse.

If you place your character on a horse, then you’ll see it look more realistic as the “skinny leg” will not be there.

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Oh goodness! The leg is definitely glitching in the screenshot. O.o

I agree about the issue with mouths not closing properly. You can see the white of the teeth, which is likely not intended and it’s kind of distracting.

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Hopefully they can fix this but at the same time we definitely don’t want any major changes to our characters. As you saw, the update clearly looked terrible hahaha. But also the update didn’t even make the mouths move properly. Just made them look hideous. Especially medium straight natural lips!

Since majority of the community doesn’t want the characters to be changed in terms of looks, hopefully the new update will update animations differently since Tory did say that they would come back in a different form.

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Hi @Tory

To be honest, not really. I did like the angry animations but if they can be fixed to look like the style of how the old animations looked that would be nice. For the most part, the animations are already fine as it is and I didn’t like how the new animations took over the old ones. Especially when they added those creases and changed the way that the lips moved.

Let us keep the animations as they are. Is there anyway to update them without really changing how we’ve seen Limelight?

I did like some of them such as idle_armscrossed_angry_loop but can it be a separate animation and can the lips and face remain unchanged?

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@aromaticcerise i hope they can fix the mouth one without changing the way they move. Hopefully they can just make the mouth close :sweat_smile:

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The animation I noticed the tiny space was this one. I can’t think of the other talking animation, but my character has Full Heart Pouty lips and it’s mainly been with this animation that the space can be seen.

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Ahhh okay. I see. I think You should send a support ticket. This is a common glitch with this particular lip shape.

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How do we use this update? It automatically updated my stories to thoose animations b4 but i guess its been changed?

Yeah, the new animations are no longer on the portal, so we have the old animations back, just refresh your browser or update the story, when I say update u don’t have to add a new chapter/episode, just have the 3 chapters that u already have in your story and click on the update button.

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@Tory As I didn’t have a chance to see the animations for myself, I’m kind of sad it got rolled back! I think this new animation concept would be better if you gave tiers to the emotions so to speak. Rather than change an animation to be one specific emotion, you could have a down arrow that lets us choose from emotions like: Original (og look of the original animation designed), Neutral, Happy, Sad, Angry, Surprised, Confused, etc. That kind of concept would probably go a lot farther, and you could make less duplicate animations! I really hope you guys would consider this, I’ve always loved Episode, and would like to hear feedback! Going to go check out the new clothes as it’s been a while since I’ve checked out the Clothing Catalog! :white_heart:

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Hi @jill_epi This does sound like a good idea!

But the problem with the new animations was that it took away a lot of the subtlety that we were used to. It really changed the lips and how they moved. Especially medium straight natural lips for men.

We basically want an update but with little to no changes to the face. Especially the lips.

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While we should push to keep the original charm of the animations, the dev team can’t make everyone happy. They’re updating how they make the animations, not just the animations themselves; only so much can be left to be. Some changes are inevitable, and it’s not exactly fair to ask for so much. (Not that you shouldn’t ask for anything, just be mindful, since not everything is possible.)

I also want to counter your arguement- subtlety is nice, but we could do with more expressiveness. Subtlety is great until everything feels static, which, imo, is happening with the animations.

I feel like Episode could lean in a bit more into the cartoony aspects of the artstyles. INK was really popular, and is still used despite LL being the most recent style, because it didn’t take itself too seriously. : )

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Yeah I agree.

But also this particular update really upset everyone.

I think there should be more expression but it should be separate from the animations we have.

Like there should be more expressive animations, but they shouldn’t replace the ones we already have.

They shouldn’t change the look that we were used to. Like the lips and other parts of the face shouldn’t move differently.

Tory also said that the animations will come back but in a different form since the current form removed a lot of the stuff that we were used to.

But I also agree with your point. Some of the animations do feel static at times. :slight_smile:

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Yeah I agree. There should be more expressive animations but they shouldn’t replace the ones we have.

Also the faces shouldn’t move differently like they did with the initial update. The lips particularly moved like fish lips almost and it really warped how I viewed a lot of characters. The facial features should remain and move as they are.

But I do think we need more emotions shown in addition to the ones we have.

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Also @aromaticcerise i couldn’t agree more! :blush:

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Hopefully they can change it without it looking like how it looked initially. I definitely don’t want to see Limelight looking like that again. If that makes sense.

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@Tory

I also believe that the episode team should give us a preview of what the next update should look like so that we can all agree that it is suitable.

I saw some other people saying this too and I think it’s very logical and reasonable.

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Soo… probably unpopular opinion.
I actually like the quality of the lips in the new anmation update. They looked a lot less pixelated than before, and i loved how clearly both the top and bottom teeth showrd depending on the animation. I even like how fluid the mouth movements were even though they looked awkward, and even broken, sometimes like other ppl pointed out before. And i def agree that the slower movements make it look a bit uncanny. But truth be told, when i first read limelight when it originally came out, i had felt that similar sense of uncanniness towards the mouth animations. So idk if the new animations are disliked that much BECAUSE its actually bad or because its not something that were used to. People tend to not like change very much. I also lloved the jaw movements too. It made the characters feel a lot more 3d than the paper puppet feel i get from the original. It just sucks some of the features got more pixelated in the update instead of keeping the same quality (like the jawlines and ears on the chiseled male face that someone pointed out b4). I also love how the eyebrow lines on the angry animations make the emotion look so much more intense. Specifically the angry yelling, fighting, and slapping animations. Either way, im excited to see how this develops :slightly_smiling_face:

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Hey!

So, I’m popping back over here every now and again to see feedback and I’m reading some mixed replies.

I think, to put it in a nutshell, and keep everyone happy - the episode team should do their best to leave the current animations alone, and update the animations separately to the ones before - as someone above said, this change is inevitable due to the software changes, so if future animations will be in this style, the best compromise is to leave the ones we already know and love alone, and we’ll eventually become accustomed to the newer animations.

I feel this is the best way for them to roll out the necessary update while keeping everyone happy.

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Agree! I was a bit confused at first, but after playing with the new animations, I got used to them and really liked some aspects. I feel like they could be polished, but no update will be perfect, especially not one of this scale. : )

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