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[anon5995601]

I see you’ve put quite a lot of thought into your perspective, and I respect that.
However,

Do read

Prison background and overlays - #3 by BunandBread
The first prison background is drawn by me. Rough grid lines, lots of line breaks, merged lines and yada yada… a lot of flaws indeed. But that’s my art style. Some of them are Years and Years old. when I was just starting like you said, a beginner. Now, to actually start with the topic, I use Blender, if you don’t know, or even if you do (since many illustration artists dislike that software) blender has lots of tools, one of them is 3D Modeling that allows you to directly place your objects (furniture in my case) in your art and then merge them together like layers. But it requires lots of adjusting, much like how you use overlays in an episode story. And those models are made by people, by other artists (for commercial/non-commercial use) and AI generating tools if you can’t find what you need.

I use that software, I entirely rely on that, especially when making backgrounds for episodes, for free and also because I don’t have tons of time.
Now you might have noticed my arts are free. I don’t take commissions and such, so, pardon me if it sounds rude to you, but why should I really put any effort into making art from scratch if I’m making it FOC? It doesn’t means that I’m providing these backgrounds just to do public or people services. Or maybe you think the rules required to make illustration art apply the same to landscape artists. Which is not the case.

I even agree, I haven’t put hard effort into my landscape backgrounds. Choose a brush that’ll give you a kind of art effect collectively, just drag your stylus on the graphic pad and it’s ready. I don’t see any reason to deny the use of AI generators, especially if you are not gaining any benefit from it.

I hope I am clear in my explanation and thank you for being a patient reader with my long paragraph. No hard feelings.

[lisaaudrey]

Hello!
Thank you for your response! Unfortunately my following answer will be a bit of a read as well.

Answers

@anon5995601

Prison background and overlays - #3 by BunandBread
The first prison background is drawn by me. Rough grid lines, lots of line breaks, merged lines and yada yada… a lot of flaws indeed. But that’s my art style. Some of them are Years and Years old. when I was just starting like you said, a beginner.

I do not doubt that the examples of the prison backgrounds you’ve just shown me are made by you, these do not instantly appear to be ‘AI generated’. I was referring to the examples you’ve shown in this post alone! Such as the cafe and park bgs.

@anon5995601

Now, to actually start with the topic, I use Blender, if you don’t know, or even if you do (since many illustration artists dislike that software) blender has lots of tools, one of them is 3D Modeling that allows you to directly place your objects (furniture in my case) in your art and then merge them together like layers. But it requires lots of adjusting, much like how you use overlays in an episode story. And those models are made by people, by other artists (for commercial/non-commercial use) and AI generating tools if you can’t find what you need.

I also use Blender, though just for fun and experimentation, never used it to implement into my own illustrations. I think it’s perfectly fine to use tools that aren’t your own! However as I mentioned earlier, I am concerned about others, including yourself getting into trouble, either in the hands of episode’s copyright guidelines or more. Which is why being transparent about the tools you’ve used will dispel any future misunderstandings. Not to mention some people being completely against AI generated art.

@anon5995601

I use that software, I entirely rely on that, especially when making backgrounds for episodes, for free and also because I don’t have tons of time.
Now you might have noticed my arts are free. I don’t take commissions and such, so, pardon me if it sounds rude to you, but why should I really put any effort into making art from scratch if I’m making it FOC? It doesn’t means that I’m providing these backgrounds just to do public or people services. Or maybe you think the rules required to make illustration art apply the same to landscape artists. Which is not the case.

I completely understand why you would not put your entire effort into creating bgs if you aren’t getting paid. Nor did I state that there are ‘rules’ in creating art (there isn’t). I brought up my previous points to solidify my suspicions, and frankly, other people’s suspicions about the examples you’ve provided. My perspective is just my own, my years of experience studying art, studying other artist’s art, wether it be in my domain or not, have given me this particular conclusion, that certain aspects do not match up in the examples you’ve provided in this post, aka skill imbalance.

It’s entirely possible to have skill imbalance as an artist, however from what I’ve seen here, it points towards AI specifically. I truly don’t see how you could explain accidentally warping and adding lines, amongst other things I’ve pointed out in my previous comment. If there is a solid explanation, I’d be happy to listen!

@anon5995601

I even agree, I haven’t put hard effort into my landscape backgrounds. Choose a brush that’ll give you a kind of art effect collectively, just drag your stylus on the graphic pad and it’s ready. I don’t see any reason to deny the use of AI generators, especially if you are not gaining any benefit from it.

I hope I am clear in my explanation and thank you for being a patient reader with my long paragraph. No hard feelings.

I’m not here to bash you about not putting ‘enough’ effort into creating something at all, I’m sorry if it came off that way. I simply believe that you should be clear about the sources used (especially during this time where AI art is being frowned upon by many). As the commenter I had responded to previously had mentionned, the names of the files you’ve shown also rise suspicion considering it leads straight to a website which provides AI generator tools.

Many thanks for the explanation!

[CowNia]

I would also like to add a few things that I’ve noticed with the examples.

Here

It looks as if someone was meant to be behind the counter. I doubt that was intended.

In this image I noticed some color bleed where the top window is, which is typically spotted in AI generated images. Along with some of the chair legs in this image… looking off.

Some chair legs are warped while others are not.

Some desks look bent while others do not.

[aromaticcerise]

I remember seeing this post and wondering the same thing. There’s some inconsistencies between each picture, as well as in each picture.

TBH, people should avoid using any form of AI generation for art. Not only could someone wind up in legal trouble, but almost all AI art generators steal work from artists to train the AI. Imagine if someone stole stories you wrote to train an AI writing generator. Sure, you don’t own the words, but writing takes a long time to learn and work on.

I genuinely don’t get why some people aren’t understanding why artists are against AI art when there are thousands of posts across different social media platforms expressing why they won’t support it.

As a reader, I won’t read someone’s story if they’ve used AI generators to make their cover art. : /

[anon5995601]

@CowNia @lisaaudrey @aromaticcerise

This is my last response,

Summary

@lisaaudrey

It’s entirely possible to have skill imbalance as an artist, however, from what I’ve seen here, it points towards AI specifically

I think you are talking about my Park Bgs
Problembo AI Image Upscaler
This is where that site actually leads too.
The site Mi.writes addressed about does not generate my 2d art. Its 3D, something that will give you video game characters like effect.

@lisaaudrey

I truly don’t see how you could explain accidentally warping and adding lines, amongst other things I’ve pointed out in my previous comment. If there is a solid explanation, I’d be happy to listen!

I think I have explained 3D modelling, enough to give insight about why things overlap. If you still don’t believe, like you said you use the blender for experiments, go ahead and use that. It’s free of course, for the first few tries.

@CowNia

It looks as if someone was meant to be behind the counter. I doubt that was intended.

It’s a come-come-cat cafe, where the decor of the cat is placed in a cafe or hotel as a sign of a good omen. I am truly sorry if it doesn’t look enough like a cat to you.

I don’t think windows got to have a specific spot to be located at, as long they can ventilate the room, just my thoughts.

Desks or any object would bend, and mess up if you are trying to change the perspective of the object, especially if you’re not a pro with graphic grid lines. Which I believe is something @lisaaudrey, as a graphic designer would agree on.

And at last,

@aromaticcerise

I remember seeing this post and wondering the same thing. There’s some inconsistencies between each picture, as well as in each picture.

TBH, people should avoid using any form of AI generation for art. Not only could someone wind up in legal trouble, but almost all AI art generators steal work from artists to train the AI. Imagine if someone stole stories you wrote to train an AI writing generator. Sure, you don’t own the words, but writing takes a long time to learn and work on.

I genuinely don’t get why some people aren’t understanding why artists are against AI art when there are thousands of posts across different social media platforms expressing why they won’t support it.

As a reader, I won’t read someone’s story if they’ve used AI generators to make their cover art. : /

I can’t really tell if that post is intended for me. But it looks like that to me, in a passive-aggressive way. I truly couldn’t care less if you read story with hand-made or AI-made covers. It’s the least of my worries. Also because there is no need for me to be worried since I am not using AI (to generate final product images, aside from models and enhancing)

You are free to check out my other threads, especially where I made a willow tree for @Jvxllee. As an artist myself, I understand your concerns about getting artwork getting stolen. But your choice of words is of the accuser, accusing me of using generators and not of someone who will be concerned about me. Anyone and everyone can have access to AI, I don’t know why I’ll try to be a giver by putting myself at risk just for mere credits?

Thats my last input on this topic.

However, I will continue to provide Backgrounds to people who want to use it. It’s on them, as far as I know, they are not AI-generated. Thank you for putting up with my prolix. Have a good one.

[CowNia]

Just going into more depth with my original comment.

Summary

I understand what you mean when you talk about changing the perspective, but I find it a bit confusing when some chair legs are completely there while some are missing (not fully developed) or not aligned correctly in what seems like a perfectly designed background… or how some of the flooring in one of your examples sort of blends in with the counter. What I mean by that is the flooring consistency is off.

Do you notice the warped and oddly defined legs that are supposed to be on the chair? Mentioned this many times.

Flooring again… why are some squares bigger than the others? Why is there inconsistency? Logically those stick legs for a table would not hold it up especially since it’s warped.

legs distorted or messed up can be found here as well. Along, with the chair seats looking weird.

Human errors are very different from ai errors. Ai tends to over detail, and can make placements for things a human would never place them at. Like you mentioned people make mistakes, but there has to be logic for every placement made in these images. An ai would not see a problem with unaligned chairs, warped table legs, different window panels sizes, the half done domes for the fantasy backgrounds… and so on… cause it simply cannot. It doesn’t know how construction actually works.

Most backgrounds for episode do not include people or animals, as those can be added in the story by the author themselves. And as you said it didn’t look like a cat to me since it looks as if it has a ear. No eyes, no whiskers… nothing that can distinguish it being a cat.

As for the windows, that wasn’t what I was talking about. It was more so the color bleed on the window.

But since we’re on windows, it does look odd. The blobbed textured shaped for the blinds.

What could this drape even do? And why is it there? Why is that the only drape seen?

What about the windows and how inconsistent they are in dimensions? Some are larger while some are not.

Most people would not notice these blemishes or mistakes first glance, as art is made for “eye candy.” Mistakes would be in detail. Ai can only go by what it knows, not what we know. That’s why it gimmicks or mirrors patterns, textures, etc. It cannot decipher anatomy, shapes and lines, lighting and shadows, which can be why some found the 4th picture wonky. And I’m not saying this is only a mistake an ai can make, but the consistency between the images, and the skills an artist would need to make the architecture… doesn’t match.

Also, would like to mention in your folder you have 3 backgrounds with an odd watermark on the bottom. Usually, in ai images words in the image cannot be read, and some ai generators do include watermarks, which can be removed by cropping or other enhancements.

Your school/university backgrounds have several desks that look warped or in other words distorted.

Not to also add, none of these are in the right sizing for episode backgrounds. Multiple pictures you’ve posted are in the same size range, which is strange if they’re meant for episode backgrounds.

Like @aromaticcerise said, many artists do dislike ai for it isn’t hand-made, and it uses copyrighted original artwork to train, and a lot of them prefer people to be up front for using ai than not disclosing it.

If anyone took the time to read this, thank you

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