Cultural Appropriation and new Hair Update

Just like how certain cultural things like jewellery and hairstyles are also physical

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So the value we put on our culture is abstract. The object itself is not abstract, but the value/significance of it is. That may be what you meant, @MyMomHadMeTested?

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Cultural food is also physical!

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But that’s true of money too! The value of money Is abstract

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No.
Jewelry is an object. The style of jewelry has something to do with the culture.

Same with the hair. Hair is physical. Hairstyle is a ritual.

yes…

Yes. And the fact that it’s part of that culture gives it value.

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Jewellery and hairstyles would be pointless if they didn’t have cultural value. We’d all just shave our heads and have no adornments.

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I wouldn’t say. It gives it a part of culture.

There is also an aesthetic part, for example, that doesn’t have anything to do with the culture.

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And aesthetics are very much associated with culture. If they weren’t, we wouldn’t all have different aesthetic ideals dependent on our cultural values.

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I mean, how do you tell different cultural things apart? They have different aesthetics.

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Again, I don’t agree with you on this.

If your statement was true, I wouldn’t be able to say that something is aesthetically pleasant, if I don’t know the culture behind it.

Yes, that is established. So money was compared to box braids, right?? I can’t remember X’DDDD

Anyways, the object itself is physical, but the value put to it is abstract. So culture is abstract. So correlating material objects and abstract value and meanings or ideas are two different things that you can’t “equalize”? I suppose?

Yes, because you can appreciate other cultures. That’s a real possibility.

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Yes, the problem with appropriation is it takes the cultural value of the object away and makes it just an object

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No. I appreciate the aesthetics itself. The culture gives me a historical knowledge behind the aesthetic concept. The culture-related physical object might be ugly in my POV, but it doesn’t take away it’s historical heritage.

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If we wanna compare money to culture, it would be like someone hoarding coins from a different country en masse where it cannot be appreciated for its monetary value

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Aesthetics are a massive part of cultures. You’re allowed to appreciate cultures. Cultures have different aesthetics that can be traced to said country.

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Aesthetics are a massive part of cultures. You’re allowed to appreciate cultures. Cultures have different aesthetics that can be traced to said country.

It is true. And it doesn’t contradict my statement in any way.

But it just means something different to different people. Or has no meaning at all to some people. Taking meaning away or having a different meaning for something isn’t appropriation, that’s perspective.

To some people, the Star of David is just a symbol. To Jews, it is an important symbol of their religion. To assholes, it is a symbol of worshipping Satan. :thinking:

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