DISCUSSION: Diversity Episode

Also, do read this report as well:

This one is the one where I got the quotes from, the one that says 1 in 5 women experience sexual violence, where stalking is also considered sexual violence.

That’s how the statistic was falsified. People see “sexual violence”, well…what’s sexual violence?

Also, it talks about other interesting statistics, too. Very good read IMO

CDC study where the 1 in 5 came from

I’m only going off statistics from trusted sources. I agree with you here that I should probably have been more clear.

This is so messed up. There is no such thing as a victim mentality, I agree that people can go out looking for sexism, but the majority of the time people actually have been discriminated against and are victims. Feminism is not about thinking women are victims, it is about striving for equality in a world where some women actually are victims.

You’re right it isn’t oppression, but it is sexist. Many people think it is okay to cat-call women despite them being uncomfortable. Btw, I never said groping was rape.

This is sexism. It’s subtle, for sure. The girl is still being discouraged from pursuing her dream as a scientist cause society holds her back saying ‘you shouldn’t want to be in science.’

Agreed.

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I’ve had a read of it, thanks for posting it!

I have an issue with ANYONE saying people should “just go to the police” if they’ve experienced abuse, sexual assault or rape. I think anyone who thinks that way needs to speak to some victims (sensitively), read a basic psychology book and learn some empathy. If you need any questions answered and want to understand how hard it is and how brave you have to be to come forward with something like that, drop me a DM.

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Ooh, I hope I didn’t give you the impression that I was putting words in your mouth. I didn’t say you said anything, I was just speaking generally, like…some people might believe this, not saying you do, but the ones that do, this is my opinion on that matter.

I’m glad we found a lot of common ground, though, even though we do disagree on a few points. Nothing wrong with that <3 <3

And you’re welcome! Read both of them, though. People that disagree are usually citing from sources that cite from these sources. LOL <3 <3

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Drop me a DM if you think it’s easy to come forward for things like that straight away. Drop me a DM if you actually, genuinely believe that women and men who experience those things are to blame for dropping it for years.

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The 1 in 5 study is true of campuses in certain universities in America. Those statistics didn’t just come out of nowhere. We have little evidence from other universities, but what we do have points to the fact that women attending higher education are more likely to experience sexual assault than the rest of America. That is a problem.

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Nah, the 1 in 5 includes stalking. I don’t think stalking is sexual violence, and I’ll be fair, I haven’t looked at all the campus studies, but the ones I have seen, the sample of students is relatively small compared to the whole campus.

Table 2.1, talking about differing types of unwanted sexual activity. I’m heavily paraphrasing here but in the source you put, it literally has there that under the legal definition of rape, it has over 18% of women. I hate to point it out but that’s 1 in 5, rounded up.

This is your source, by the way

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It also isn’t the original CSA study btw

The original was 2007

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I don’t believe that’s true study. The original CSA study doesn’t include stalking.

It also, obviously, cannot include unreported sexual assault.

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And as you probably know, there are many, MANY people who never come forward. If 1 in 5 women in college campuses come forward, what is the number of people who don’t?!

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Same source. 19% is almost 1 in 5

Neither of these refer to stalking.

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Yeah, one of them. The one I disagree with but like looking at. My source that I agree with are the FBI stats.

s. The
most common form of rape victimization
experienced by women
was completed forced penetration,
experienced by 12.3% of women
in the United States. About 5%
of women (5.2%) experienced
attempted forced penetration,
and 8.0% experienced alcohol/
drug-facilitated completed forced
penetration. One percent, or
approximately 1.3 million women,
reported some type of rape victimization
in the 12 months prior to
taking the survey.

That’s the part you’re talking about? The part after that begins elaborating, anyway.

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And under what grounds do you disagree?

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I sincerely wanted to but out until I saw this ignorance. Sweetheart what’s the demographics of colleges and universities? Are you in college? Have you been to a college campus. The majority happens to be Caucasian’s. These “white people” you’re talking about didn’t get in because they weren’t as good enough as their white counterparts. Yes schools need to fill a diversity quota, but when you, as a white person, are being considered as a candidate at their school, you’re being judged against other caucasians. So if you don’t get in, it’s not because of a POC, it’s because (in their eyes) you’re not good enough as the other caucasians they’re considering kanye shrug sorry not sorry. I’m not trying to offend you, “I love white people”, “I have white friends” lol

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Wait, CSA is child sexual abuse?

What else is CSA cause I just looked it up >.>

Campus Sexual Assault.

But under what grounds do you disagree?

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Thanks, I’ll get to you in a second hol’ up.

Oh god… :woman_facepalming:t5::sweat_smile: Don’t–!

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