DISCUSSION: Diversity Episode

I had to do it. I wanted to see how it felt to say such a thing. It truly felt silly Bahahahaha. Sorry guys for the pettiness and silliness on such a serious topic :see_no_evil: I couldn’t resist the opportunity lol

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Trying to get statistics for women all over the country is going to be nigh-on impossible. The only rational ways of going about it are surveys or report statistics, both of which have holes in the reasoning and data process.

However, hopefully ignoring what the statistics and facts indicate because it’s not a nice idea isn’t going to help matters I don’t want the 1 in 5 statistic to be true, even in select college campuses across the US, but that is what the data seems to imply, and that’s a problem. A problem that feminism is uniquely tailored to be dealing with

Not the bastardised version America has, real feminism

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I disagree with the broad statement that people use that study for which is “1 in 5 women are raped”

It says 1 in 5 women are victims of sexual violence, and that includes stalking which is ridiculous. LOL

As for “campus” sexual assault, like I said, I haven’t seen all of them, just a few of them. The samples of students taken are usually small compared to the rest of the campus. I don’t actually have a solid, solid opinion about college campus rape because I don’t think it is the same rate for every campus.

Like, my campus had little to no rape for various reasons, but that doesn’t mean that different campuses aren’t like that. I’ll do some more research in general about campus sexual assault and get back to you, though.

The 1 in 5 study didn’t come from here.

But…

From the study YOU cited, this is what @ChaoticDeluge was talking about.

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It does not include stalking. Did you see the stuff I showed you?

Where does it even say it includes stalking?

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*Little to no reported

This is the legal definition of sexual assault as provided by the Department of Justice. As you can see, it talks about a “sexual act”, which is not stalking.

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Everywhere, everywhere sexual violence and rape is put together, stalking is included, like

This is talking about table 2.1

I’ve read it before, lol

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Not everywhere. In fact, not in most places.

Look at the website I showed you. Look on the left hand side. Stalking is listed separately.

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So there is no substance to assuming all studies include stalking. In fact, the original CSA study never uses the word once.

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I mean, I’m not the best at maths, but that looks like a general calculation of country-wide rapes. Which is. Worrying, Because sexual assault is a lot broader than penetration. In fact. Rape is broader than penetration in US law

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That’s because people don’t comprehend the power of being an author. Everything we write has the power to influence our audience positively or negatively. Majority, not all, of the feature stories or stories in the spotlight on Episode make me cringe (No Kiss List :nauseated_face: is the newest one to my list of cringeworthy trending/featured stories). Where’s the talk about protection and STD’s (If they talked about it later in No Kiss List, sorry I couldn’t make it past the the first chapter)? They’re constantly pushing sex and sleeping around without educating readers whom majority of are little kids. In addition they make people feel ashamed for being a virgin (really, if you don’t want to be condemned for having sex, then use the same energy when you consider condemning people for not having sex) and the story about Grace (the Pastors kid) felt like an attack against Christian beliefs. When writing on controversial or important topics it’s always good to give a non-bias perspective of both sides, even the side you’re against. The writer seemed like she had a personal agenda against that religion. Another thing that’s cringeworthy is them pushing the whole bad boy crap (don’t get me started). Some Episode Feature stories are honestly terrible, but thank God for the responsible writers on here who research their topics and make sure they’re readers are well educated about stuff without lecturing or killing the vibe of the story. Episode has the power to do so much good and add to the positive changing of the world, but it’s a business and with all businesses: Money comes first before the consequences of products.

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Heard. I’m glad that some places get that right, but this CDC study is the one that is cited in every single article. That’s how I keep finding it. When I say “everywhere” I mean everywhere in the study I cited here.

I think it is really important for people to define what they consider “sexual assault” because you can say that you were but it may not actually be.

These stats can be skewed for that reason and also for possible other reasons.

Yeah, again, I don’t know about the CSA study, but thank you guys for showing it to me. I’ll get back to you on it after I look at it and do some more research. All of my campus-related research about it has been specific campuses and not very many.

I’m talking about the broader look at things. Maybe on some campuses are “1 in 5” but America as a country isn’t.

The original CSA study even clarifies it is using the legal definition

Which, as we have established, is separate from stalking.

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That was what i was saying. 1 in 5 absolutely isn’t a fair representation of the country as a whole. Because we cant really get an accurate read on that.

But eve. If it is multiple campuses across the US, the fact that it could even be a couple is a problem that feminism is uniquely equipped to deal with

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@ChaoticDeluge has already mentioned that the CSA study is referring to campuses, which is why it is called CSA (Campus Sexual Assault) and not something like NSA (National Sexual Assault).

And as I have said, we have very little data from other campuses, but what we do have agrees with this data. This original CSA report even details that women who experience sexual assault before university is much lower. It is a problem that women in universities are experiencing sexual assault at such a high level.

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And by the way, sexual violence and sexual assault are different things.

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I don’t think it should be up to feminism to fight this because of what feminism has become. We don’t need feminism in America anymore, but we could do with working on other things like our criminal justice system just for one example that I have a problem with.

@ShanniiWrites When I first saw CSA, I thought it was a different kind of acronym, like CDC, FBI, etc. like that, not anything specific, that’s where our confusion was. I thought CSA was child sexual abuse, because I didn’t find campus, which is why I truly thank you for that study.

I agree with this, but also part of my point, some people don’t agree with this. They think they’re the same, they think they are part of “rape”. Different people think of these things differently, despite any legal definitions.

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The study is referring to sexual assault, not sexual violence.

It is also not talking about sexual harassment, which includes verbal torment.

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What do you mean by this? I’m not meaning this sarcastically, I’m genuinely interested. :wink:

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