DISCUSSION: Diversity Episode

It is illegal.

Why wouldn’t employers hire only women if they could get away with this and pay them less? Businesses want to profit, so especially if a woman is doing better despite age or whatever, why wouldn’t they just hire women and pay them less?

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Are you missing the part where I’m saying they work the same jobs despite the different titles?! They do the same things. It IMPLIES different responsibilities so they can be paid differently. SAME JOB.

Justice! Praise Jesus <3 <3 <3

I’m glad that worked out for you, but seriously. Know your rights, man. <3

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I am not missing it. I literally said “just because it seems the same even most of the time doesn’t mean it is”

Again, just because you don’t like the reason doesn’t mean it isn’t a real reason.

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Because it’s not as easy as that. There is still an unfair perception that women aren’t as “business-minded”, that they’re unreliable because they go on maternity leave and “stay with the kids” (even though paternity leave and stay at home fathers should be promoted).

You’re right, it is illegal. But it still happens. Some businesses don’t do it knowingly, hence why you said why don’t they just hire women.

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So in order to argue your point, you as an outsider feel the need to tell people that what they witness at their own jobs is wrong or that they’re just too stupid to see the truth? You’re an outsider!

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It is proven that men prefer working while women prefer staying home.

If they want to do it the other way around, they should be able to, and they can.

That has me shook.

I think this kind of is involved with the idea that job titles differ. Two people with two technically different jobs but are basically doing many of the same tasks but are paid differently.

The job title matters, too.

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I’ll tell you right now that if anyone wants to keep the order of the world as it is right now, it’s the high-ups in companies. It’s the people who earn the most money. It’s the people who have the most to lose if equality is a thing.

So, yes they create different titles for the same jobs.

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Show me where this is a proven fact that isn’t just because of gender roles and expectations.

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Show me a case study of men and women who are given the same weight in their child’s life, the same social standing as a parent. People who haven’t been told that women stay at home and men go to work their whole lives.

I’ll give you one right now.

MY RELATIONSHIP

@ChaoticDeluge, who wants to stay at home when we have kids?

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Moi o/

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What happened to me, happens to a lot of women and young people. It’s an illegal under the table thing that a lot of people go through, but don’t speak up about because they don’t want to look like a complainer, negative Nancy or ungrateful or they fear no one will believe them, or they dislike conflict, or they fear they might lose their job by bringing it up. I didn’t speak up at first because I’m timid, feared what was verbally said could be covered up, feared I wouldn’t be believed, feared I’d lose my job because speaking up is considered stirring up trouble/conflict in the workplace, didn’t want the guy to get fired because of me ‘cause at the end of the day everyone needs money and honestly he was nice.

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And why are they given different job titles if they’re doing the same job?

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@LillyR, no one can control anyone’s thought. We can educate them on our perspectives, but cannot force our beliefs onto them, whether it is about equality (which I believe everyone is equal), or something as simple as food.

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That’s not a proven fact. I know many women who love working, in fact a few who go to work immediately after giving birth and work up to the day before they give birth because they love work so much. The current generation of women love to work. A lady I know, gave birth and went to work the next day and guess what? Her husband stays at home. I always see the husband picking up the kids and dropping them off. I never see mom cause she’s always working and thoroughly enjoys doing so.

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I’ve been at a company where the only woman to point out that she was doing the same job as the men who had been there for less time got laid off. They were getting paid more. She said something about it. They made her redundant to “reduce company costs” the same week more men came into the workforce… doing the same job as her for more money.

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That’s totally the point of my posts all the time.

Here’s a Yale study

Sigh…your anecdotal doesn’t represent the greater population of people.

Neither does mine. My dad has had far more impact than my mom. My anecdotal doesn’t represent the greater population.

I think I’m done repeating myself. I’ll do it once more, for you, though.

Different job titles mean that there are different responsibilities and different qualifications (including age). Depending on these responsibilities, the title will change. It doesn’t mean that they won’t do many of the same things that other people do and their extra responsibilities may not even show up very often, but they will, that’s why it is a different job.

Right, of course! Many women love working, myself including. People call me a workaholic, LOL. But the stats support that the majority of women prefer to stay home, which there’s nothing wrong with that, either.

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I’m done repeating myself, but once more for you.

These people have:

  • The same responsibilities.
  • The same qualifications.
  • The same level of experience (sometimes the women have more experience).
  • The same amount of time spent at the company.
  • The same age (even though age is a sticky one because that wisdom stuff is bull. Companies care about profit, not Zen)

They do the same things. They get paid differently because different titles are made for them.

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People we can’t fully report the statistics of rape, however we can estimate it. Rape is happening as I am typing, and you’re reading. I haven’t read any further comments about the statistics, because my eyes are too lazy.

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