Well said,
but she is complaining over something that has no sense
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People who have religion like to follow it. Thatās okay. Yes itās not okay to hate someone because of one thing about them. Itās much more than that. Like Iāve said, I will love any person who is LGBTQ+ but I just donāt agree how they are sexually, I was told that is not right. Thatās just my religion. Other religions have different opinions about it too. But like I said, I agree that people shouldnāt hate someone for it but I donāt agree that people should stop expressing their beliefs.
Thatās all there is to it, hun. 
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Maybe she wanted you to understand something else but you interpreted the language differently? Or maybe she needs to make certain edits to her post so that it provides the well-needed closure?
Just donāt post negative comments like this. She is a human too and has feelings too. Like I said, she created this thread because this whole stuff was troubling her or someone else from her community. Respect others and their opinions too 
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I dont want to read it all tbh.
Is it about the video? ^^
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Pretty much
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Thank you, I am out then.
I donāt like fighting over things you canāt change anyways, lol.
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Religion is everywhere.
LGBTQA+ is everywhere.
Sometimes they overlap and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.
Although there are obvious and big conflicts of interest between the two as to what is acceptable and what isnāt, both groups preach love so can we just go with that?
Ignore the threads you donāt agree with, donāt comment on them, donāt insult anyone with a different opinion.
This conflict will hopefully end in the future but for now I think itās best that everyone just remains calm and does the mature thing when it comes to disagreements.
Personally, religion doesnāt really bother me.
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Wow thanks! you said it well
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Exactly!
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I mean personally I think people should be able to express themselves however they want. Its just how they do it that bothers me. But I do understand where ur coming from.
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Gee willy Finn get it
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Well hecc
Alrighty aighty
For starters and for anyone who doesnāt know me, hi Iām Finn. Iām an LGBT person who was raised in a Christian family and had to go to church and all that other stuff.
Basically, I have a clue what Iām talking about here and I can understand both sides.
Now there are many different religions and many different beliefs, I am not going to pretend I have extensive knowledge of every single religion because that just isnāt true and as Iāve only had my primary experience with Christianity Iām going to just speak about Christianity here.
I can understand why there are people who feel like theyāre being ragged on for their belief and like theyāre being shut down for believing what they believe. I mean it does seem on the surface that this is just someone trying to be against religion because they think religious people are bad.
I know how I would have felt reading this when I was religious.
Iām going to talk about some of my experiences and maybe we can reach a middle ground where we can all look at each other and just understand. Nothing more, nothing less.
Understanding can be the bringer of peace so this may help bring some understanding. If not thatās ok too, Iām happy to talk with anyone and respond to any thoughts. Please do try talking with me before judging me and what Iām saying completely. If you disagree, letās talk either here or on a pm. I wont disrespect or get angry at you.
For a while, I went to church. Now my church like many many m a n y churches was pretty firmly against anything LGBT. They didnāt actively teach hate upfront but if you were in the church you learned to hate and judge. They also very openly taught that discrimination was completely fine and that being gay was a sin. Iām glad they never got around to talking about anything relating to being transgender as that probably wouldāve messed with me pretty badly.
That being said I remember a lot.
I remember being told things that hurt me so much.
I remember being taught that all LGBT things were wrong.
I remember being taught that it was ok and in fact required to disagree with and even outright discriminate against anyone LGBT even though LGBT folk couldnāt control or change who they were and are.
Iāve also had a few experiences I donāt really want to detail and Iāve had to live with the knowledge that if I donāt lie and pretend to be something Iām not and that if I donāt hide the person I am and live in mental agony then people I grew up with will probably hate me, certainly disagree with who I am and who I cannot change from being, and will most likely tell me about how āgod doesnāt make mistakesā as if who I am is a mistake.
On top of that Iāll be told Iām going to hell if I donāt change what I cannot change. Fun.
I remember one girl asking why god was against gay people when he created them and the response being āWell you see, we get all kinds of urges. Sometimes we get the urge to kill someone but thatās wrong so we donātā as if those are the same thing. As if loving someone and having feelings for a certain gender that you can not control or change are wrong.
Because of this and a few other things religion was pretty deeply triggering to me for a very long time. Itās also a part of why I am not religious.
So to any fellow religious-raised LGBT folk, believe me when I say I get it.
I get how awful it can be and I get how terrible it can be to know that there are still some of these people who kill others for existing and who disagree with anotherās existence not understanding that it isnāt a choice, and I get that you can hear a lot of awful things with people then hiding behind religion.
I get it.
I get what itās like to feel like youāre broken because youāve been taught that itās evil.
I really truly get it.
And if someone wants to avoid discussion of religion I think thatās ok.
Especially because there are people who have gone to religious schools that have deeply mentally and emotionally harmed so many people who canāt even read about religion without that pain and those feelings and all that suffering coming back. So yeah itās 100% ok to want to avoid religious discussion and to want to not have things resurface.
I mean hell, I still get heated about religion.
But hereās the thing.
Religion is not in itself inherently bad. I mean sure, organized religion is gonna have flaws because itās created by people who are themselves inherently flawed.
But, there are religious people out there who are trying their best. There are religious people out there who donāt use their religion as a shield to discriminate and hate and disagree with the existence of others.
There are people who have religion in their lives that is a positive force that makes them strive to be a better person. There are religious people who are also LGBT and there are religious people who genuinely practice the thing that most religions are supposed to be based off of: love.
There are those who see that many religious texts are actually fine with LGBT people. There are religious people who question things theyāre taught and realize that some things are wrong.
There are people who do not judge or harm others and donāt use religion as an excuse.
There are religious people who actually teach love and true acceptance without any judgement.
And there are a surprising amount of them.
So what do I think?
I think that as long as someone isnāt disrespecting the existence of someone else, their view and opinions should be respected.
I think that as long as the discussions are not harmful or judging or disrespectful, there should be religious threads.
I think we should all accept and love each other.
I think religious people should fully accept LGBT people as they cannot control being LGBT and itās not something bad or something that needs to be controlled or changed. I think LGBT people should respect religious people who are not disrespecting their existence or harming others and even try joining in the discussions respectfully and learning more about the religions and views others share.
I think that we should all be able to talk about being religious or being LGBT and I think that overlap there should be more than welcomed.
I think religions should respect each other.
I think everyone should respect each other.
I think we should all coexist peacefully and not just tolerate each other, but we should go beyond that and practice love and acceptance of each other.
I think we can be in peace and learn more about each other.
Because hey, weāre all people. We all are deserving of love.
So why not just love each other?
Also to clear some things up:
- Artist is just saying that we shouldnāt allow people to descriminate or harm others and then let them hide behind religion, I donāt think she wants all religious threads to be taken down etc etc
- I sincerely donāt give a shit what religion you are, just donāt judge or hurt others or yourself and be the best you you can be.
- religion doesnāt trigger me anymore
- I do not hate religious people or religions. I hate people hurting others and using excuses and getting away with it. Seeing as these arenāt the same thing I donāt hate religion.
- I was talking to both groups here so sorry if that was confusing at times!
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As a follow up! If your religion is something that makes you happy and betters your life you should be able to discuss and practice it! Not sure if that was clear haha
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If something I said was unclear or you disagree please let me know!
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Imma just say that bro youāre amazing and I love you man. Also youāre great and Iām happy that youāre you! 
and thank you for just helping out with things man really.
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TL; DR
I basically said religious people shouldnāt judge, hurt, or discriminate and as long as they arenāt doing that discussing their religion is fine but if someone doesnāt want religion to be discussed around them that should be respected and that there are people have been hurt by religion but there are also religious people who donāt harm others
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I donāt understand you what you mean. Everybody should be able to express themselves at some point as long as itās not rude or shady. Even I do it. Iām a Christian, and I do sometimes express my beliefs when needed. Itās okay for everybody to share their beliefs sometimes, but you canāt just do it to offend people.
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Ugh, Iāve said that! Lol
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I disagree with you .
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