Rules Around Using Episode Art Assets and Community Edits


#626

I know that one can be widely used for other purposes more than the other. My comparison had to do more with the support system and how Episode could use this to benefit themselves rather than sabotage relationships with writing users who are already shaky with them due to their lack of release of useful things, which is mainly why these editors exist: to give writers what they’re not receiving from Episode, which is why I compared it to the CC community of Sims and how they’re creating content the Sims company lacks. Backgrounds and overlays can make or break a story as much as a set can make or break a movie or Tv show or commercial and etc.

Even though I get it and the whole copyright stuff, I’m still pissed because like said before, writing stories on Episode is already limiting due to the limit of animations, clothes, and backgrounds. Now that content creators/editors can’t mass share their edits even on Episode platforms, it’s going to be even more limiting.

In the end, to make it work for users and the company. Episode, should do like the sims and create a build a world like program. It can be built within the writers portal and allow people to create backgrounds and overlays with a code that blocks users from downloading or screenshotting, but also allows them to make their backgrounds and overlays public to background tabs of other users under the “Available For All Stories” tab. This way everything stays within their program. It’ll cost a lot, but save them from copyright issues in the future.


#627

This is basically why Episode isn’t real gaming LOLOLOLOL - This is just…probably not all that possible. I mean…it might be possible. Definitely less than probable.


#628

Anythings possible with coding and technology, IF someone wants to make it happen. It can be like Episodes version of photoshop with stock images in the form of overlays and backgrounds and furniture taken from already created backgrounds and overlays.


#629

Pffffft!!! This reminds me of a lovely gif with one of my favorite people.

It isn’t that no one would want to make this happen, I’m sure, it just…Episode is just Episode. There’s a reason these really complicated things don’t exist already. I don’t wanna say it is the engine, because that isn’t the 100% correct term, but let’s just compare it to an engine for a second.

Episode doesn’t have an engine like…some games have a frostbite engine so that models break around them. Episode just isn’t this kind of thing, it just isn’t ^^’


#630

The program doesn’t have to be complicated as photoshop. I just said photoshop because it’s the only program that popped into my mind. It can be just like the preview section that comes up when you upload an overlay. It allows you to move and scale overlays over a background. They can simply add all of their backgrounds to the “Choose a background” section and turn that into a tab and add a “Choose an overlay” tab.

Or

Simply, them just turning all of their furniture in their backgrounds into overlays and adding empty room backgrounds to their background section. Then making it possible for users to add an unlimited or larger amount of overlays to a scene.


#631

Not sure that’s a possitive thing though… :thinking:
Take for instance the code system for creating stories - it’s a mess and so much more complicated then it needs to be.

It’s kind of like when logitech made the horrible decision to go from using the Cherry MX switches everyone else were using in their keyboards to creating their own(!)…

Why invent the wheel twice!?

@julesscreven
I’m not familiar with her/his site or content so I can’t speak for it, but if it used “Episode assets” then I guess they are in their full rights to order it to be removed. It’s either that or being dragged into a lawsuit

-not directed at anyone particular just a reply to the post-

I’m not angry at Episode for the rules (that’s been there all the while btw) - its pretty self-evident to me that they don’t want anyone to use something they’ve created in order to market themselves or make a profit outside of their management. I’ve actually been supriced they’ve allowed us to get away with it for as long as they have. Copyright has always been copyright, and it is their product after all.

As I’ve also mentioned earlier, they have rules themselves they need to follow, contracts they’ve made with other parties (Demi Lovato for instance) that they risk getting into a legal process over if it’s broken. Wich it probably is if we’d use some of the hidden images for those stories.
What we all need to understand is that this is money we’re talking about here. Episode (pocketgems) is a corporation. They didn’t create this app and all its content for the fun of it.

No, what I’m sad and dissapointed about - and many with me I imagine - is their way of handling the situation. Instead of adressing the issue and bring us some concrete examples of what we as creators can/can’t do, to try to find a good solution for everyone (like a site where we actually can share our creations within the community only) they just shut us off. That’s not professional and it puts the whole community in jeopardy. Way to bite the hand that feeds you

<3

ps: and don’t even get me started on this weeks art update,…


#632

I don’t think it is positive or negative. It just is what it is and we have to live with it. As for the coding thing lol, come on fam. We’re lucky we have this to begin with, that we can use Episode for such a hobby. It is a really cool thing and if you can get used to it and work with it, there really are no downsides. How messy it is is dependent on the writer, IMO. I’ve seen messy scripts, I’ve seen clean scripts, there’s times where I say fuck it, I’mma just do whatever and mine becomes a little messier than usual shrugs

We could just…not have it at all? But I’d say that’s a negative. It is what it is and what it has always been. All this misunderstanding and freaking out over it all, the rule makes perfect sense and it isn’t wrong of them to have this rule. I like the rule, personally LOL - good rule.


#633

This!


#634

Agreed, on all points (but maybe one)
Just thinking that it would be even better if they’ve used an actual existing coding system. That way they’d teach young people to code at the same time as they’re having fun. Killing two birds with one stone so to speak.
But you can’t have everything I guess…

<3


#635

This is exactly what Episode needs!!!


#636

I guess I owe Episode an apology.

I see people complaining a lot and I kind of understand, but then I remember that it is on me, as I am one of those idiots who just skimmed through Episode’s Terms of Service without really paying attention and there is no room for anger or disagreement after that.

I am in time to avoid “breaking the law”, but for this announcement, I assure you, I would have done it. My apologies.


#637

Looking back at the reply, wouldn’t it be great to enforce this rule that forbiddens widely distribution, but outside of the Forums? I doubt anyone that doesn’t use the forums can’t reach the backgrounds. And maybe a system that makes you sign in/up to download from forums? Or is this allowed?


#638

You can get hold of as good as any background if you just have the right search words - member of the forum or not. Once it’s up on the web it’s out. That’s how the hidden backgrounds got spread in the first place :upside_down_face:


#639

@lanafrazer_episode
I don’t quite understand the situation
Alexa can’t give backgrounds because she uses episode assests, ok. but what’s the dealio with making the background watermark smaller?


#640

@CreativelyCam


#641

What im not understanding is why is this an issue now when it’s been going on for years? I understand that we can’t sell episode assets but sharing them is technically NOT selling, the editors ARE NOT recieving money for them!

This just aggrivates me so much because I was planning on using custom backgrounds from different drives and now their drives are closed because of this.


#642

I agree, girl.
Sadly, though, that’s not how Episode sees it.

RIP Edited Backgrounds
2014-2019


#643

Now that I think about it, what exactly makes certain backgrounds hidden?
I mean, I get the the thing about Pitch Perfect, Demi, and Mean Girls,
But what about the other stories with hidden backgrounds like My Brother’s Best Friend and The Baby Project?


#644

Editing characters is not allowed by TOS!! Why does then Episode promote edits? By this it also means that memes with Episode characters are not allowed!


@fcukforcookies please explain this to me, because you’re obviously smarter than me in reading American laws. (language barrier)


#645

don’t mind me, just lurking sipping this tea :coffee: