While I’ll never become a writer: the guidelines

yep the point is anyway the graduation of tension or sadness or shock (what ever emotions you are trying to rais in reader) and that can be acheaved in many ways not just with long scene with dead bodies or long sex scene.

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I did :yawning_face: you would know if you read before saying that :woman_shrugging:t4:

And yes I would.
Smut is “Erotic writing that contains explicit, sexual content.”
:woozy_face:

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Have you every read “The Notebook” (not the movie, the novel.) A fantastic read. One the the great novels out there. Are you going to tell me that it’s “smut” because it contains sex in it? Sorry I won’t have you attack that great piece of literature because you think sex is just smut.

See now you twisting my words :woozy_face:
I said writing descriptive sex and writing sex scenes out is smut
If a story contains sex it’s not smut unless it has written out sex scenes and descriptions.

And I never read that story and I don’t plan on reading it. and i didn’t attack the story, nobody mentioned it until you.

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I said would you say any descriptions of sex are smut?

So sex described in any form (my own quotes) to you is smut.
I didn’t twist words, you responded. :woman_facepalming:

Urban Dictionary: Smut

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Girllllll i was responding to the part where you said this.

Regardless if there romance novels if they contain sex descriptions in depth there smut.

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Regardless if there romance novels if they contain sex descriptions in depth there smut.

:rofl::joy::woman_facepalming:
Oh dear
@line123462 that doesn’t say any description of sex is smut :grin:

yes it does. did you only read the first two lines?

Uh nope

My gosh that’s an urban dictionary. It’s not Webster. You know what an urban dictionary is, right? :joy:

its internet, language, same way as L.O.L O.M.G. and S.T.F.U

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What’s that pose to mean?

Oh come on be serious. I’m sorry. That’s not a real dictionary.

smut

/smʌt/

noun

noun: smut ; plural noun: smuts

a small flake of soot or other dirt or a mark left by one.

“all those black smuts from the engine”

a fungal disease of cereals in which parts of the ear change to black powder.

“a few bad crop years with smut and drought and frost”

obscene or lascivious talk, writing, or pictures.

“porn, in his view, is far from being harmless smut”

Finally we agree!

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Okay kindly go to App Store and check the age to play description, it’s 13+! You can’t go on sharing how the sex was like dude…they are kids!!! Have you read romance stories? In most of the romance stories I have read, the author ends the scene with the characters kissing and then we know that it lead to sex, no author EVER has explained a sex scene in detail and you know why? Because there are kids on the platform. If you want to read sex scenes in detail then go to wattapad, like episode is a game for 13+ not for 18+.
Again with the killing portion, you can kill a character but you can’t be very visual with it, it’s a guideline and it’s either you be with it or no.
Episode is a app for 13+ and we all know a lot of children start playing it before 13 so not using “* ” when using a bad word is just …:skull:.
It’s not that hard to use “* ” like seriously!?
I am DONE-:raised_hand:

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Okay, but, p-rnography is something that kids are legally not allowed to consume. I know a lot of people watched it at that age, but they also lied about their age to do so. This app is for 13+ meaning that p-rn can’t be on here or else the creators of Episode will get in trouble.

I’m going to ignore all of the disrespectful/ignorant things you’re claiming in this, but the s-x is a big no-no in this app because there are kids on it. I will state once again that the creators of Episode will get into legal trouble and may have to remove their app from the Appstore if they show any sort of p-rn on here because it’s marketed towards teenagers, a demographic that is legally not supposed to see adult content. Once again, plenty of teens have seen p-rn, but once again they had to lie about being 18+ in order to do so.

Relating to the post, I think a lot of what’s being said is taken out of context a little.

You can’t show anyone being violently murdered and then doing a graphic image of a dead body for 5 minutes, but you can show characters being shot by the gun, stabbed w the sword, etc, as long as it’s not graphic. I’ve seen plenty of stories (popular stories, mind you) that show characters being killed.

You can show people passionately making out, stripping, and falling into bed and then cut to them being in bed “naked” (w the censor bars), you just can’t explain or depict in detail the s-x they had. Most TV shows with teen or adult audiences (PG13, R, etc.) don’t show the characters having sex, it’s usually just the build-up. And nearly every single Disney movie has some sort of romance in it without even mentioning s-x.

Agreed it’s a good opportunity to show the negative consequences of drugs, going back to th fact that this app is being marketed for kids. I’ll also connect this to the swear words because you can have words like “hell,” “damn,” etc. uncensored, the guidelines just say you have to censor the big words.

This is all coming from a writer who’s read the guidelines at least 5 times to make sure my story won’t break any of them, as well as a reader who’s been on Episode for about 4 years.

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OK guys this conversation starts to be really oftopic.

like its realy not about the meaning of word smut. The topic is about @Happywriter4 explaining why she will not write stories pointing out several guideline rules.

Which we can sum as:

  1. noone can be killed in story
  2. no deciping sex, only non sexual realitionships
  3. no drugs
  4. no swearing

so lets go back to the topic if this is really 100% prohibited by the guidelines

so we can write only romance with no hint of sex with no death at all , no drugs and no swearing.

And plese lets stop the fight and pointing out who said what.

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Hi there… author who has been writing on Episode for 4 years that has killing, sex, drugs, and some profanity in my stories.
As someone already stated, you’re misinterpreting the guidelines.

  1. You can show someone getting killed. You just can’t have it too graphic meaning… you can’t show blood + body + blood. You can have 2 of the 3, but not all three. I’ve killed plenty of people in my stories. In fact, someone dies in EVERY one of my stories.
  2. Now onto the sex. You cannot show characters actively engaging in sexual activity. You also cannot describe in detail what the characters are doing, have done, or are going to do. You also can’t show two characters in sexual context without clothes. That’s why most authors make sure that characters are at least wearing underwear in bed scenes. Basically, all the afore mentioned stuff IS what divides PG13 from Rated R. No nudity… no showing sex.
    As far as the romance = sex… Sorry. You couldn’t be more wrong there. The most romantic stories and movies I’ve read/scene actually didn’t contain any sex, or it was simply implied. Someone already mentioned Pride and Prejudice, which is one of my all time favorites. Guess what… no sex.
    Not to mention, there are some people (myself included) that are asexual. That does not mean we don’t enjoy romance (unless they’re also aromantic). Sex does not equal romance and romance does not always lead to sex. My husband romances me constantly, and well, I’m asexual so guess what… it usually doesn’t lead to sex.
    And as far as chaste and non-sexual being conservative. Again, I’m asexual and I’m DEFINATELY not conservative.
  3. As far as no depiction of drugs… wrong. It depends on the context. One of my stories that is on the “Own Voices” shelf is about… a recovering drug addict. It’s all how it is shown and how it is portrayed. You portray drugs as a good thing. Yep. They’re going to take it down.
  4. As far as censoring profanity. Yeah, I’ll admit, sometimes that one annoys me. But, it’s easy, either censor it with a simple * or find another word (I choose to find another word, personally). And it’s not all profanity words. Just ones that have been deemed to be more severe. I can say damn, pissed, bastard, hell, ALL I WANT. I just can’t use harsher ones without them being censored (or in a sexual context).

If someone’s story got removed, it was because the violence was TOO graphic, or the sex was TOO descriptive or actually shown (either through animations or nude characters), or hard core drugs were used and portrayed in a positive context. Not many of my characters are chaste or are in non-sexual relationships unless it fits the character or by reader choice.

Shuttered LITERALLY means closed down. They had Ivy in beta for about a year. Obviously they either deemed it not profitable enough, or they couldn’t bring the app within guidelines for app store mature ratings (even mature content has to have standards).

Like I said, I’ve been a writer on Episode for 4 years, and I’ve always managed to write serious, dark, and sometimes disturbing content all while staying within old and new Episode guidelines.

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Wow 50+ posts. How am I supposed to respond to that?!
Let me just say that if everyone who watches/makes a movie/writes something with a sex scene in it is a smut peddler, then nearly all of Hollywood/romance novelists are.
Sex ISN’T a dirty thing, just because you don’t like it.
Most women and ALL men masterbate. It’s a natural thing.
You say I’m obsessed with it, you’re the ones who singled it out and are going on about it.
@AJ_PELZER I’m disappointed in you. I needed support here